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by Sheela Lambert, New York City

Interview with Ann Herendeen author of "Phyllida and the Brotherhood of Philander"

Ann Herendeen has written the book she always wanted to read: the bisexual historical romance Phyllida and the Brotherhood of Philander. "Phyllida" is the story of a spirited and curvaceous but penniless woman who agrees to a marriage of convenience with Andrew Carrington: an arrogant yet magnetic gentleman poised to inherit an earldom. Carrington is gay, but in need of an heir to insure the continuity of his family line. Phyllida agrees to his conditions: that he can continue his "active membership" in the Brotherhood of Philander, an exclusive, secret club for gentlemen who prefer their own sex, as long as she can continue her writing. As the two proceed to "do their duty" for the family line, Carrington's dormant bisexuality is awakened and the two, surprisingly, begin to fall in love. When he meets the handsome Matthew Thornby, son of a self-made baronet, Andrew seems to have everything a man could desire. But the fragile understanding developing between the future Earl and his bride is shattered when a member of their own household turns spy and blackmailer, causing a rift between husband and wife and threatening to expose Carrington and the entire "Brotherhood." Will Phyllida and her husband reconcile? Will they be able to stop the villainous plot? Or will Carrington and the "Brotherhood" be pilloried and jailed for the crime of being "men who enjoy other men?"

Ann Herendeen is a native New Yorker and lifelong resident of Brooklyn who at 51 has published her first novel. She is a slender, attractive woman with long auburn hair and an air of fragility who punctuates her sentences with emphatic gestures: drawing attention to her unique hands. Ironically, for a writer, she lacks differentiated or working fingers, for the most part, as her hands didn't form in the normal way. Her creativity, however, hasn't been hampered at all, and her book is swiftly making the rounds of the bisexual community. I sat down with Ann recently to learn more about her intriguing novel and the intriguing author herself.

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Q: This is your first book. Did the idea to write a novel come like a bolt out of the blue or had you always harbored a desire to be a writer?

A: I tried once, shortly after graduation from college in 1977, to write a lesbian historical romance. Back then, the only writing tool was the typewriter. Change something on page one and everything has to be retyped. I got to page three or four before deciding -- this is impossible. I didn't do any more writing until I got a PC in the '90's. Since then, I've been writing steadily but this is the first novel I've tried to publish.

Q: What made you want to write a bisexual romance novel?

A: My writing, like my favorite reading, is all about escapism. When I started writing, my goal was to make my fantasy "real" by writing a novel that was exactly the kind of thing I wanted to read but couldn't find. In my earlier writing, I was working in the sword-and-sorcery subgenre of sci-fi, but I was focusing much more on my fantasy of the perfect marriage, which requires a bisexual husband, than on any science or sword-fighting. So a bisexual romance novel seemed more like the right genre for writing about a man with a wife and a boyfriend. Especially because my writing "voice" was moving in the direction of comedy, which is better suited to the romance genre, I think, than sword-and-sorcery.

Q: You call this a bisexual regency romance. For those of us not so familiar with the genre ... what is a regency romance?

A: A Regency romance is a historical romance that takes place during the English Regency, 1811-1820, when the future King George IV acted as the regent for his father King George III, who was too sick to govern. The Regency romance, as a genre, was pretty much invented in the 1930s and 1940s by Georgette Heyer, and the Regency period has become a hugely popular setting for historical romance. Regencies are typically light, witty comedies of manners, focusing on the leisured upper classes. The first ones had no sex in them and usually ended with a kiss and a marriage proposal. Modern authors tend to write plenty of steamy sex scenes in most romance novels, Regency and others, because most readers want that.

Q: In the novel, Andrew Carrington belongs to a very exclusive club. What is a "molly house" and did they really exist? Were they all the same or were there different kinds?

A: There really were molly houses. They existed primarily during the 18th century, and they were like a combination of gay bar and bathhouse without the baths -- no running water in those days. "Molly" was a slang term for gay man then. It's a diminutive of the name Mary, one of several examples of gay terms from 200 years ago that are still in use today. In a molly house, gay men drank, danced and had sex together. There were upstairs rooms, often without doors, for having sex. There were even "molly weddings." There's no way to know if these were just fun and games, gay men making fun of the rituals of straight society, or genuine same-sex commitment ceremonies. My guess is, probably some of both. All we know of molly houses, and the gay subculture in general, comes from court cases, the transcripts of the trials of men arrested in raids and prosecuted for "sodomy" or "attempted sodomy." The evidence against them came from informers, men who hung out in molly houses, pretending to be participants, then reported to the authorities when they had enough juicy details to tell.

As to my hero, Andrew Carrington: Like most historical romances, "Phyllida" is set among the upper classes. There's no information whatsoever about the kind of clubs, if any, that upper-class gay men belonged to. The men who went to molly houses were primarily middle- and working-class. So my fictional device was to imagine a club that very wealthy gay men could create for themselves, with excellent security -- big, tough bouncers who could read the names on calling cards, who would absolutely never let in an unknown person off the street. "What we lose in variety we gain in security," Andrew explains. I could write anything I wanted for this fictional club because of circular logic: the members of The Brotherhood of Philander are so wealthy they can effectively protect their club from raids. Because it was never raided, there are no court cases in the records, so we don't know anything about it. For the humor of the contrast, I made the club seem kind of stuffy ... the stereotype of the later-19th-century-style English gentlemen's club. Leather sofas and wing chairs, men reading the paper, drinking whisky, playing cards, not talking much, and usually in the clipped, upper-class style when they do -- but also playing strip-whist and going upstairs for sex, just like in a molly house.

Q: What intrigued you about the historical period of the novel and how did you research it?

A: It was reading the Regency romances of Georgette Heyer that sparked my interest in that period. I liked the background of the Napoleonic Wars, the style of dress and speech, the Romantic poetry, and particularly the mood of the time, still rational and coarse Georgian 18th century in outlook, but moving in the direction of the proper and sentimental Victorian later in the 19th century. In terms of writing a bisexual romance, I found it intriguing how, as in the previous century, the way in which "gentlemen" spoke and interacted with each other was so different from the way they behaved and spoke with "ladies."

I hate research, which is one of the main reasons I chose this period -- I didn't have to do any. Reading Heyer's Regency romances got me curious. She made it seem so "romantic" in a witty, 1920s way, that I wanted to know if it really was like that, what was true, what was fiction. Over the years I read some actual history and biography of the period, enough to feel comfortable writing a novel set in this time. I did do some research on the gay subculture, specifically, reading Rictor Norton's book Mother Clap's Molly House: The Gay Subculture in England, 1700-1830.

Q: Phyllida (the main character) is a writer. She has a favorite ink-stained and tattered robe she likes to wear while writing. Do you have a favorite writing garment?

A: Yes. It's not ink-stained because I use a computer, and it's not quite so tattered, but it is old and grubby. It's an old robe I put on over my nightgown. In the summer I wear a minuscule black spaghetti-strap chemise. I'd prefer to be naked, but I like to sit by the open window. Physical comfort is essential for writing. I don't want to be distracted by tight waistbands, undergarments -- anything that I can feel on me or that I have to worry about keeping clean takes my mind off the story. But don't get too grossed out -- I do wash these garments along with my regular laundry!

Q: In the story, there is a wager on whether Carrington, who has a reputation as "a man for men," will be able to impregnate his bride (Phyllida) by the end of the season. The wager is entered into the "betting book" at White's, a local pub. It seems as though the entire town has money riding on the outcome. Was this just a humorous device for the story or a common practice of the time?

A: There actually was an exclusive gambling club -- not a pub -- called White's and it really had a betting book to write down the wagers. Gambling and betting on almost anything was -- and is -- a huge part of British culture. Men with enormous incomes and plenty of free time bet high stakes on card games and dice, but also wagered on everything from politics to which of two flies would crawl first up the window. My one real fictional device in this part of the story was extending the circle of wagerers far beyond the select few members of White's to include wives, mistresses, boyfriends, etc. I figured that this wager would be so interesting that everyone would want to get in on the action, and would manage, through some sixth degree of separation, to find a member of the club who could place the bet under his own name.

Q: Andrew Carrington marries Phyllida because of family pressure to sire an heir. He plans to continue leading a gay life, having relations with his wife solely for the purposes of procreation. After all, in those days there were no fertility clinics! However, in the process of trying to impregnate his wife he begins to enjoy their sexual encounters and ultimately falls in love. Have you ever had the desire to seduce a gay man?

A: Oh, god, don't get me started. The one person I was truly in love with was a gay guy. Can't be more specific, in case he reads this. My big worry writing this fantasy is that people will think I have some big agenda to "change" a gay man, or gay men in general. But if I were lucky enough to seduce a gay man, the whole point of that for me is for him to continue with his same-sex activity. There's no point in "changing" him away from what it is that turns me on in the first place. What I like is bisexual men who are primarily same-sex oriented, with occasional forays into man-woman sex.

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Sheela Lambert is a veteran bi activist and writer living in York City with her son and her dust collection. She is also the founder of the Bi Writers Association and organizer of Bialogue.

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